Election results Obama has won, now what?
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:28
#1
remind
Election results Obama has won, now what?
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:28
#2
remind
Continued from [url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=004400]h...
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:29
#3
M. Spector
I'm still waiting for the report of the international election observers before I'll accept the result.
Oh, wait, there aren't any international election observers! Only vassal states get to have the conduct of their elections monitored by international observers. With the U.S., it's a given that the electoral process will be fair and democratic.
My bad.
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:29
#4
i just checked a freeper site and i laughed at the comment "Senator Joe McCarthy is rolling in his grave."
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:35
#5
remind
What I found particularily hilarious are the predictions that all the Jews will now be leaving the USA. [img]rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]
The polls in Alaska do not close for 25 more mins, can't wait to see how they vote.
Mspector where did you get the results for the SSM voting?
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:42
#6
Indiana and North Carolina should get called for Obama any minute now.
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:50
#7
M. Spector
Tue, 2008-11-04 21:59
#8
remind
Thank you mspector, but this is what I read regarding CA
quote:
The San Fransisco Chronicle is reporting 55 percent voting "yes" on the proposition and 45 percent voting "no," with 11 percent of the precincts reporting. But the paper reports it's still too close to call.
Sucks about AZ and florida.
NC is still not declared even though they are reporting 100% of precincts reporting.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:00
#9
ElizaQ
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
[b]What I found particularily hilarious are the predictions that all the Jews will now be leaving the USA. [img]rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]The polls in Alaska do not close for 25 more mins, can't wait to see how they vote.
Mspector where did you get the results for the SSM voting?[/b]
Yes I'm waiting for those results too. Both for the President and for Stevens.
These votes on SSM are horrible. Bleh...
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:04
#10
M. Spector
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
[b]Thank you mspector, but this is what I read regarding CA:[/b]
That's a 55-45 vote in favour of a ban on SSM. Sounds pretty clear to me.
Update: it's now 53-47 with 25% of the polls in.
[ 04 November 2008: Message edited by: M. Spector ]
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:08
#11
The audacity to allow ourselves to have hope that government could be the solution instead of the problem, thats what.
That acceptance speach allowed us to have hope again... its been so long!!
Thank you to the African Americans for electing Barack Obama. For the first time ever, you had a reason to bother voting.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:11
#12
ElizaQ
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
[QB]What I found particularily hilarious are the predictions that all the Jews will now be leaving the USA. [img]rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]
There's the been a bunch that are pretty hilarious. One thread, though dark did crack me up. It was titled (not exact) Time to start stocking up on guns-please I need help then went on to say 'look we have maybe a six month window before they start banning them all....
The funniest one though was a total agonized one opining, (generalized) "I'm reading all sorts of things about people celebrating all around the world. My God, My God what have these people done who voted in HUSSEIN' The whole world wants us to fail and now they are celebrating that America has finally been brought to it's knees due to it's stupidity...we are dead, totally dead...'
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:16
#13
quote:
Update: it's now 53-47 with 25% of the polls in.
Depends on where the polls are.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:20
#14
quote:
NC is still not declared even though they are reporting 100% of precincts reporting.
Missouri is tightening too, although McCain has pulled into the lead in Montana (not that anyone cares). However if Missouri goes Democratic it will mean that Obama will have won all of the so-called battleground states except Montana, including some that no-one in their wildest dreams would have considered competitive just two months ago.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:24
#15
Cueball
I care about Montana.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:25
#16
Ya-right
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:25
#17
remind
Have been listening to the news reports finally from those covering it, and I was struck by the fact that how important this win was/is for African Americans, has been lost on some of us "white folks" here in Canada. It means that there can now be truly a time for reconcilliation and healing for them.
One can only imagine how how this win will impact FN's in Canada, FN youth had already been identifying with him, and I can hardly wait for the empowerment it will give them and for the day we will have a FN PM.
It seems ABC is no longer updating their web site.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:31
#18
remind
quote:
Originally posted by ElizaQ:
[b] There's the been a bunch that are pretty hilarious. [/b]
Ya now they are screaming they are happy the end times are near!
For gawd's the sky is falling because a black President has finally been elected, I don't think they give a shit about "socialism", it is racism pure and simple.
And notice not 1 interview with Palin!!!!
[img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]
Too bad she did not have to give up her Govenorship!
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:40
#19
quote:
Originally posted by M. Spector:
[b]That's a 55-45 vote in favour of a ban on SSM. Sounds pretty clear to me.Update: it's now 53-47 with 25% of the polls in.
[ 04 November 2008: Message edited by: M. Spector ][/b]
I'm hoping that for some reason the LA and San Francisco polls aren't included in that yet.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:41
#20
ElizaQ
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
[b] Ya now they are screaming they are happy the end times are near!For gawd's the sky is falling because a black President has finally been elected, I don't think they give a shit about "socialism", it is racism pure and simple.
And notice not 1 interview with Palin!!!!
[img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]Too bad she did not have to give up her Govenorship![/b]
The ones I have been reading keep calling him a marxist.
Ah well she's Alaska's problem now. I see that Stevens is ahead right now there. Interesting, he's likely going to be tossed out of the Senate anyways.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:49
#21
ElizaQ
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
[QB]Have been listening to the news reports finally from those covering it, and I was struck by the fact that how important this win was/is for African Americans, has been lost on some of us "white folks" here in Canada. It means that there can now be truly a time for reconcilliation and healing for them.
I don't want to speculate on what exactly it means because I just don't or can't really get it. I can recognize that it has meaning though. People are celebrating in the streets all over the country! Is that normal for a presidential election? It's incredible actually and I'll admit the joy catching.
I was watching a streaming video of some place in NY and saw three women just leaning on each other just bawling while people danced and whooped around them. I lost it myself at that one.
CNN showed the celebration going on in Kenya where Obama's father came from. They're going nutz.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:53
#22
Missouri has tightened but i don't think it's enough, I think McCain will win it.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:55
#23
M. Spector
For me, the most astonishing thing about this election is that 47% of the voters voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin.
After all that's happened in the last 8 years, that has to represent your hard-core, racist, right-wing vote. And that's an awfully big hard-core right-wing element.
The USA is truly fucked up.
Tue, 2008-11-04 22:59
#24
I will be upfront in stating that I voted for McCain. I remain, notwithstanding a result I did not want, profoundly hopeful for our land, and eagerly anticipating the next four to eight years.
Barack Obama has the potential to be a transformational President. Clearly, though the Democrats did not get 60 Senate seats, even one who often votes independently cannot be deaf, dumb and blind to what the American people said. Put simply, the people showed that ours is a country where anyone can do anything, if they have the brains, the drive, and the will.
Our country is truly an amazing land. It is a land made up of people from all nations. Some people came involuntariiy, and are part of the heritage that Barack Obama partially springs from.
Others are descended from people wanting to leave the idiotic culture, ethnic and religious wars. In many respects, the quilt that makes up America is a speaking quilt. To quote Barack Obama's campaign slogans, the quilt says "Yes We Can". What we learned today is that the immigrants whom came here for a merit-dominated rather than religion and ethnicity based experience have prevailed.
A few words about the U.S. Presidency, and the hope that he can achieve gretness. The U.S. President is a combination monarch and Prime Minister. In order to lead successfully, they must be inspiring. They also must make decisions. The best of them, such as George Washrington, Ronald Reagan and Abe Lincoln were both inspiring and decisive. Less successful, but still great Presidents such as Truman made gutsy and courageous decisions, but were not particularly inspiring. George W. Bush fits that category.
We know that Obama is inspiring. It is up to him how to use his considerable oratorical gifts, and charisma, for the country. He will either soar, or fail miserably. I will never root against my country, and hope, despite my voting for McCain, that he meets his promise. I both hope and fear for the future.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:02
#25
M. Spector
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Thanks for proving my point.
[ 04 November 2008: Message edited by: M. Spector ]
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:08
#26
quote:
Originally posted by wage zombie:
[b]Missouri has tightened but i don't think it's enough, I think McCain will win it.[/b]
Obama only 600 votes down with 99% in.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:14
#27
M. Spector
Obama won in only 9 out of 114 counties in Missouri.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:15
#28
Some of those counties have more cows than people. [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:16
#29
quote:
Originally posted by M. Spector:
[b]For me, the most astonishing thing about this election is that 47% of the voters voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin.After all that's happened in the last 8 years, that has to represent your hard-core, racist, right-wing vote. And that's an awfully big hard-core right-wing element.
The USA is truly fucked up.[/b]
Even this number reflects a vast number of voters with no experience in participating in elections, and evaluating promises vs. likely performance.
I hope, sincerely, Obama hasn't bitten off more than he can chew. If one figures in people who have voted historically it's probably close to a 50-50 popular vote split.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:17
#30
Anything left other than Jackson County and Christian County?
I think McCain will hold it.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:17
#31
remind
Funny they have declared Alaska for Mccain but still not NC for Obama, do they not want to show him 200 electoral votes ahead of McCain, or what?
And have you checked out FreeRepublic? They are claimimg McCain and the Repubs ran an honourable campaign and never would again. [img]eek.gif" border="0[/img] And of course it is the left wing media's fault. And of course on the Katrina victims who should have been helping themselves as opposed to having their hands out :bigeyes: And that Obama's "people" voted twice, ya right. Idiots I tell ya...
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:17
#32
M. Spector
McCain's strongest state was Oklahoma, where two out of three voters voted for him.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:23
#33
remind
Well Indianna and NC have both gone Obama and not yet declared, why?
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:29
#34
quote:
Obama only 600 votes down with 99% in.
I calculate less than 400.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:30
#35
Potential for recounts, and absentee ballots.
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:33
#36
ElizaQ
quote:
Originally posted by remind:And have you checked out FreeRepublic? They are claimimg McCain and the Repubs ran an honourable campaign and never would again. [img]eek.gif" border="0[/img] And of course it is the left wing media's fault. And of course on the Katrina victims who should have been helping themselves as opposed to having their hands out :bigeyes: And that Obama's "people" voted twice, ya right. Idiots I tell ya...
On one thread a few started to blame Limbaugh for his Operation Chaos which somehow got Obama the nomination of the first place. That when on until other came on were like, "What are you, morons? We need Limbaugh now! Don't be throwing him under a bus..."
Then of course there's the 'We'll make it through..we have Palin...."
Tue, 2008-11-04 23:49
#37
Some advance votes not counted in
[url=http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/5/12649/6674/253/653696]Georgi....
Al Franken is trailing but still might pull it off.
Wed, 2008-11-05 01:47
#38
How did Obama beat McCain?
Money and the ethnic vote. [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]
Wed, 2008-11-05 04:20
#39
quote:
Originally posted by wage zombie:
[b]Al Franken is trailing but still might pull it off.[/b]
Oh, that's sad! Before I stopped watching last night, he was ahead. [url=http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapSMN]Wow, it's so close![/url] Only a 757 vote difference right now!
[ 05 November 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]
Wed, 2008-11-05 04:28
#40
Catchfire
[url=http://counterpunch.org/reed11052008.html]Morning in Obamerica[/url], Ishmael Reed
quote:
The great American satirist George Schuyler’s prescient and comic work, Black No More, is about a scientist named Dr. Crookmore who comes up with a formula that turns blacks to white (I wonder how Schuyler would treat the current profitable back- to- Africa DNA hokum). As a result of a country that is totally white, The Civil Rights organizations go out of business, and even the last hold out, the character, based upon the black nationalist Marcus Garvey, in the end, tries some of Dr. Crookmore solution. Would something like this happen were Barack Obama to become president? A country where there exists no social divisions and the issue of race has become defused.The leader of the NAACP says that the work of the organization will continue even with an Obama victory. Why?Wouldn’t it be better that the NAACP shut its doors as cable’s leading conservative intellectual, Tucker Carlson has suggested?Auction off its assets and join the post race fever? In his ”The New Black Aesthetic, ” (1989,) author Trey Ellis announced the arrival of a generation of African Americans who would place the issue of race in the background unlike we “curmudgeons” and “cranks, ” who came of age in the 1960s and who are still carrying on like those Japanese soldiers who weren’t aware that the war was over. “The New Black Intellectuals” were even praised by Robert Boynton in an essay that appeared in the Atlantic Monthly (March, 1995:53-69. )
To many, Martin Luther King’s dream has been realized. He said, ” I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.” Obviously me and my over sixty pals are still lingering in those crooked places and refusing to process the sunlight that is available to everybody else. (Tavis Smiley is our leader). People like us are going to have to adjust to this post race America which resembles a painting by Edward Hicks. A place where Blacks have reached the Promised Land?
Wed, 2008-11-05 04:35
#41
Obama is trailing by 569 votes in the Nebraska 2nd Congressional District (Omaha). A win there would give him an additional vote in the Electoral College.
[url=http://www.sos.ne.gov/elec/2008/ElectNight/electoralcollegeresults.pdf]E... College Results[/url]
Also, Al Franken is losing in the Minnesota Senate race by 1,123 votes with nine precincts still to report.
[url=http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/ElecRslts.asp?M=S&R=all&...'']Election Results[/url]
Wed, 2008-11-05 04:39
#42
quote:
I'm hoping that for some reason the LA and San Francisco polls aren't included in that yet.
Me too Doug, but with Conservative areas like Orange County, I'm not counting on it. I've been listening to the talk, and reading the comments. The USA is a terribly bigoted country.
Oh and Massachusetts passed a ballot initiative making it legal to carry 1 oz of personal marijuana.
MSpector, I totally concur. With this Obama win, the US of A can now pretend it have no race problems.
47 percent for the decrepit man named McCain and his idiotic running mate, Palin. WTF?
Wed, 2008-11-05 04:44
#43
Last night, during McCain's concession speech, when he thanked Sarah Palin for helping him campaign, a bunch of us cheered and yelled out, "Thank-you, Sarah!" My table even drank a toast to Palin.
Thanks so much, Sarah! Heckuva job! You betcha! [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]
Wed, 2008-11-05 05:17
#44
McCain gave a good speech for once. Good thing he didn't get the hang of it until after the polls closed. And it was a huge relief that Palin didn't destroy the respectful tone McCain set by opening her mouth.
Wed, 2008-11-05 05:23
#45
I was really moved by the scenes of celebration last night and by the sight of Jesse Jackson with tears rolling down his face. Obama won't usher in the socialist revolution but that doesn't change the fact that last night was light years from Selma and Mississippi Goddam.
Wed, 2008-11-05 05:26
#46
ElizaQ
quote:
Originally posted by aka Mycroft:
[b]McCain gave a good speech for once. Good thing he didn't get the hang of it until after the polls closed. And it was a huge relief that Palin didn't destroy the respectful tone McCain set by opening her mouth.[/b]
That was a good speech. Really classy. I said to others in the room last night. Well there is the John McCain that people have been wondering where he went.
Michelle I was at my parents and when that part of the speech came on I cheered and said the exact same thing! "Woooo, you betcha doggone it!" Then I had to explain to my Mom that 'no I wasn't cheering because I liked her'....
Wed, 2008-11-05 05:44
#47
Al Franken is 700 votes behind with 99% of votes counted!
Wed, 2008-11-05 06:01
#48
quote:
Last night, during McCain's concession speech, when he thanked Sarah Palin for helping him campaign, a bunch of us cheered and yelled out, "Thank-you, Sarah!" My table even drank a toast to Palin.
Thanks so much, Sarah! Heckuva job! You betcha!
Yep, Sarah Palin presence, Obama's obviously superior intellect, the collapsed economy, a completely failed Bush administration, etc., etc. etc. ...and it winds up a 52% - 48 % split across a turnout of 131,000,000 voters.
Penny for your thoughts! [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]
Wed, 2008-11-05 06:15
#49
One thing that I hoped was learned from this election, is that CNN's goal of being a front runner for technology should go down the drain. [url=http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/33875464.html?elr=KArksD:aDy...? Seriously?[/url] This use of technology must have been one of the most bizarre things of the night. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]
[If you missed it, there is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOxW19vsTg&feature=related]video evidence!][/url]
Wed, 2008-11-05 06:46
#50
quote:
Yep, Sarah Palin presence, Obama's obviously superior intellect, the collapsed economy, a completely failed Bush administration, etc., etc. etc. ...and it winds up a 52% - 48 % split across a turnout of 131,000,000 voters.
This evokes thoughts of holograms and technology?
Wed, 2008-11-05 07:11
#51
We were all hooting at the holograms. But we were all turned on by the MAGIC MAP! I think I have a secret crush on John King. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] (Whoops, not so secret anymore!)